http://www.bootdisk.com/ 174 July 2004

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Welcome to the 174th Edition of The BootLIST

INDEX
1) Four Ways To Backup Outlook Express Data
2) What's My IP Address?
3) Can Old Deleted Files Be Recovered?
4) How To Remove Already Deleted Program Listings From Add/Remove
5) Get Rid Of Juno's IE Toolbar


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1) Four Ways To Backup Outlook Express Data

David C. writes - I am using Outlook Express for my e-mails. Where are these stored on my hard drive, because I want to copy them on to a floppy.

Gordon answers:
Tools-Options-maintenance-Store Folder will tell you where they are.

Read this as well. [It describes four ways to backup your OE data]:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/backup/index.htm


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2) What's My IP Address?

Jerry posts - I'm using Windows XP and have new DSL service. How can I find my IP address?

Burt answers:
This is one way:

Go to START/RUN and type in cmd and in the new window you will see a blinking cursor and you will type in:

ipconfig /all and hit ENTER key. This will show you your entire IP address.

You can also hit:
http://www.whatismyip.com
and it will tell you your IP Address


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3) Can Old Deleted Files Be Recovered?

Vivian asks - Thank you for such an easy [website] to [help me] fix my computer. Although I have a question. I had some videos of my children at the swimming pool about a year ago and had transferred them to my zip drive. Upon doing that, I deleted them and my zip [disk] later turned up missing. I was wondering if restoration 2.x [or any other undeleter] would be able to bring about those files that I had deleted, and also emptied from the recycling bin.


*** The longer you've been using any pc you have deleted files on that you want back the slimmer your chances are of recovering them. Why? Because once you delete a file your pc sees that space on your hard drive as available and will write new files to that area eg files from software installs, temporary internet files, temp files, and so on.

Or, if you've defragged that will fill in ALL the space starting at the beginning of the drive thus overwriting every [potentially recoverable] file that was deleted if it resided in that area.

In summary, file recovery software works best if you immediately shut down your pc once you discover the error.

Ken B. responds:
Deleting a file doesn't actually delete it; it just marks the space as available to be used. There are third-party programs that can sometimes recover deleted files. The problem is that the space used by the file is likely to become overwritten very quickly, and this makes the file unrecoverable.

So your chances of successfully recovering this file is decent if you try recovering it immediately after deleting it, and rapidly go downhill from there. If you've been using the computer since then (for example to write this question and read this answer), your chances are probably very poor by now.

But if the file is important enough, it's worth a try anyway. Stop using the computer in question immediately, if you haven't done so already. Download an undelete program. Here's one:

http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html

But there are several others to choose from; do a Google search) on a friend's computer and bring it to yours on a floppy to try.

If this fails, your only other recourse is to take the drive to a professional file recovery company. This kind of service is very expensive and may or may not work in your case.

t.cruise adds:
AND, your results will vary, depending upon how much you've used the drive since you lost the data. You might only be able to recover portions of files, and not the whole file itself, or not be able to recover certain files at all. The rule of thumb is to use the system as little as possible, until you recover what you need.

Otherwise, the drive sectors that contain the files might be overwritten. I once deleted about 200 JPG files. By the time I recovered them with EasyRecovery, I was only able to fully recover about 80 of the files. The other 120 files were either only partially recoverable, with 1/3 to 1/2 of the image viewable, or not recoverable at all. So, timely recovery is VERY important.


*** The Restoration utility mentioned above will install to/work off a floppy so you dont take the chance of writing the program to your hard drive and possibly overwriting some data you need to recover. The app. below you might want to install in advance of any problem in case you need to use it later.

http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/UK/welcome.htm


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4) How To Remove Already Deleted Program Listings From Add/Remove

Dan writes - I installed a program and I tried using add/remove programs to remove the file, but error came up saying, cannot find INSTALL.log. The program has been deleted [manually, but it's] still in the program list. How do I remove the program listing?

To reinstall the program means reinstall eZula and other Spyware programs along with it. This I do not want to go back through.

Kelly answers:
This generally means that you removed the program folder, etc prior to using Add or Remove or the uninstaller. Use the steps provided here:

Troubleshooting, Removing and/or Cleaning Add or Remove Programs:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_a.htm#addremove


*** True, it's much easier to just remove the program listing from the registry instead of following the advice you often see from folks that suggest you install the program again just to get the uninstall to work. Yes there are a few utilities that can do this for you but its one of the safest registry edits as all you are doing is removing a nonactive key.


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5) Get Rid Of Juno's IE Toolbar

Martha asks - I have a dialup ISP which is Juno. I use the pay for version which is $10/month. I like it I but it put in this toolbar in my Internet Explorer which I dont want. Is there an easy way to get rid of it without going into the registry as my computer guy friend said I should do?


*** Make sure IE is closed. Go to the folder you installed Juno to most likely in Program Files and rename toolbar.dll to toolbar.bak or whatever. When it's gone IE will run faster also.


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